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Jack Ma has been in the background for a long time. Are you probably referring to Daniel Zhang as the departing CEO, who has been in charge since 2019 and will continue in the cloud division?

Jack Ma built it from the ground up, but has kept a low profile the last few years and may not have given the company his best. We'll see as time goes on, I don't know the new CEO so I don't know what to expect.

Let's see where the company goes from here. Time will tell